A series of troubling prophetic words about President Trump and judgment on America, as well as Leviathan and the fall of democracy have been issued. Cindy Jacobs and the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders have denounced and condemned these words. See partial transcript and video link below. Also see on WordPress:
Summary:
We believe these words are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and fail to pass the scriptural tests for discerning true New Testament prophetic words. These words represent harmful curses and could produce a corporate agreement in a demonic plot, giving the enemy a landing strip and the power to fulfill the curse, thus bringing it to pass. The spirit of the person was wrong. and we believe even, not operating out of the heart of God. To speak such words of judgment, without even a call to prayer, is very concerning. Deuteronomy says, they can give you a word or a dream, and it comes to pass. but doesn’t mean it’s God. because he says the Lord your God is testing you, to see whether you want to believe a lie, or believe something that’s in your heart. We are wanting to say woe to these words, that have been spoken. We condemn these words, and call them false. Because we don’t want to give any power to them. and we want to break any kind of curse that’s been released in the realm of the spirit.
https://youtu.be/-Fzg34OGl3s
Cindy Jacobs Denounces False Trump Prophecy | Bishop Bill Hamon Agrees
Jennifer LeClaire Ministries
Nov 17, 2024
A series of troubling prophetic words about President Trump and judgment on America, as well as Leviathan and the fall of democracy have been issued. Cindy Jacobs and the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders have denounced and condemned these words.
See the statement signed by Chuck Pierce, Dutch Sheets, Patricia King and others.
Here’s the signed statement; https://goto.generals.org/acpe-statement – link broken, but document can be viewed below:
https://jenniferleclaire.org/articles/who-exactly-are-the-false-prophets-and-false-teachers/
7:08 – The A.C.P.E. judges these words as false. Our concerns are as follows:
• We believe these words are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and fail to pass the scriptural tests for discerning true New Testament prophetic words (1 Corinthians 14:3; Revelation 19:10b; John 6:63; 1 Corinthians 13; 1 Corinthians 14:1; Galatians 5:22,23 ).
• We believe the words represent harmful curses (Romans 12:14; Proverbs 18:21).
• We believe the words, if acted upon by those who are immature or unstable, could incite violent actions against the president of the United States of America. (See example in 1 Kings 21 regarding Jezebel and Naboth’s vineyard, illustrating how an evil word—when spoken and acted upon—can come to pass and bring about severe and fatal consequences.)
• We believe these words could produce a corporate agreement in a demonic plot, giving the enemy a landing strip and the power to fulfill the curse, thus bringing it to pass (Genesis 11:6; Mark 4:24). I Corinthians 13 strongly admonishes us to operate out of love. It is sandwiched between I Corinthians 12 and 14. The words in question do not reflect love.
Taking the Matthew 18 Approach:
In accordance with Matthew 18, we have approached some of these prophetic voices with our concerns about these words. We asked them to retract these presumptuous and dangerous words, which we have deemed to have been prompted out of the wrong spirit. So far there does not seem to be any willingness to listen to the counsel of the voices that this person not long ago considered to be mothers and fathers in their lives.
8:39 – Our desire was to address these issues privately and hope for a resolution that will bring healing to the person and the Body of Christ. Unfortunately, those efforts have not yielded fruit.
8:51 – Due to the serious nature of the words being shared publicly—and how they could be used to either release a curse that one may unwittingly agree with or even inspire one to fulfill its violent rhetoric—we felt it was important to make a public statement about our views of these public proclamations.
We had hoped that there would at least be an acknowledgment that it was not wise to release these words publicly but rather to submit them to mature oversight and perhaps intercession. We are deeply concerned for the members of the Body of Christ who have been hurt, confused, and jarred by the context of the word and the dogmatic tone in which it was delivered. As a result of this grievous concern, and our deep love for this ministry and those who heard the word,
9:38 – The Holy Spirit directed us to issue this statement. In humility and in the fear of the Lord we do so.
Speaking the Truth in Love:
We love the prophetic and believe it has the potential to bring God’s purposes into the earth like nothing else can, but we also are zealous for its integrity and ministry to be pure and ministered in proper protocol and wisdom. We are praying for those involved in releasing these controversial and detrimental words and hope they will move in a rightful and mature way to heal the land and not speak division and destruction. We love them, pray for them, and believe God will move in their lives
10:19 – And this document will be available to you. And it is our hope, that as a result of this, these words will be retracted. and we encourage people, before you release a word that says that like this word said, that this cannot be changed. in other words, by saying this, okay one could have said, oh I’m seeing some terrible things that could happen, we need to pray, we need to call on God.
10:53 – so the spirit of the person was wrong. and we believe even, not operating out of the heart of God. there have been many prophetic voices that have warned, we need to pray for America, that there could be rioting. we are not ignorant of this fact. in fact you don’t have to be a prophet to know that, that that could happen. however to speak such words of judgment, without even a call to prayer, is very concerning.
14:41 – A lot of people don’t know how to discern prophecy, how to determine. and here Deuteronomy says, they can give you a word or a dream, and it comes to pass. but doesn’t mean it’s God. because he says the Lord your God is testing you, to see whether you want to believe a lie, or believe something that’s in your heart. just like these prophecies. some of them want to believe Trump’s a bad guy. they want to believe America is going to go down the drain. because they’re from other nations, and some in our own Nation, feel that way. so you can prophesy presumptuously, out of your own desires.
15:15 – For 15 years I wouldn’t prophesy to any my family or close people, because, I was too emotionally involved. we talk about mindsets and soul blockage. If you’re too emotionally involved in something, or you have a strong opinion, you shouldn’t be doing prophesying about that.
17:43 – when a prophecy concern a whole nation, and concerns a lot of people, it needs to be judged or evaluated, and dealt with.
22:43 – we’re not trying to speak woe to this Minister, who all of us really, truly love. but we are wanting to say woe to these words, that have been spoken. and that we understand the force of words, the power of words. and that is why we are taking this time to actually condemn these words, and call them false. because we don’t want to give any power to them. and we want to break any kind of curse that’s been released in the realm of the spirit. prophecy is Redemptive. and I believe that anytime we may see something. and people on this council, at times see things, that are negative, that are perhaps within the plan or the strategy of the enemy. and our call is always for intercession. and we can even see a true word was given of judgment in the days of Jonah and Nineveh. and yet the people of God prayed. and they repented. and God’s hand was stayed. we do not believe these are true words. but we’re saying that even in the case of true words, when God is saying something, that’s very serious, there is always a place of Prayer, of repentance, and of turning. and we see that evidenced in scripture. and so prophecy should have a Redemptive impact on the people that hear it. and these words really don’t meet that criteria. which is why we’ve had to label them as false.
29:10 – Some of these prophecies, especially the ones regarding judgment on the church, seem to be partnering with the accuser of the Brethren. Jesus loves His Bride…
30:00 – And I don’t see in these prophetic words, Redemption. as others have mentioned. God is love, he’s not a harsh God, he’s not the author of confusion. he’s not trying to divide his church. he himself said, a house divided against each other cannot stand. and I’m very concerned that many people in the younger generation, that we’re so all committed to raising up, as pure prophetic voices, are seeing a wrong representation of New Testament prophetic Ministry. we are under a different Covenant. that doesn’t mean there’s not judgment. but it’s a different covenant. We’re at a different age.
30:46 – And these words, they’re hopeless, they’re disturbing, they breed fear and confusion. I’ve seen so many people very upset, they don’t know what to believe. and I agree and I stand with the others here. These words have to be condemned. we’re not condemning a person. we’re condemning these prophetic utterances, in hope, that this person will turn and find, reestablish the truth. that’s a very important point. this is not a vindictive thing. this is hoping that this leader will go back and say, look I want to retract that. I should not have done that. I should have gotten it. judged by leaders in the Nations, I released it presumptively.
33:41 – You know most words even if true, are always conditional. God always gives that Redemptive clause in there. that if my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray…
34:22 – … We know that God is listening to the prayers of his people. and so when you get these kind of words, that need to be checked and even nullified in the spirit…
34:36 – We are praying for America and we know that we’re in tumultuous days. but that God has a way out. because he’s listening to the prayers of his people. and that we’re going to continue to wrestle with God, for the blessing of the Lord to come upon this Nation.
NotebookLM AI Summary:
The Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders (ACPE), a group of 60 seasoned prophets meeting for 25 years,, issued a public statement denouncing several recent prophetic words targeted at President Donald Trump and America, marking the first time in their history they have publicly called out prophetic words as false.
The ACPE was initially formed after questionable national-level words caused confusion in the body of Christ. They felt compelled to denounce the current prophecies because they are “flagrantly false,” have the potential to incite violence, and could cause division in God’s name. Because these words were released publicly via social media to a global audience, the ACPE felt a public response was required.
The ACPE specifically denounced five major points released by an unnamed minister or their group:
- The “God Punched Trump” Prophecy: This word, released around November 4th and 5th, 2024, claimed that God punched Donald Trump, resulting in blood and lost teeth, symbolizing a “catastrophic time” during his leadership. It stated Trump would be removed for becoming champion of himself and falling over his “partnership with unredeemed sex power and unredeemed money”.
- Trump Presidency Being God’s Judgment: The minister and their team strongly inferred that prayer would not change the outcome, asserting that Trump’s presidency would be a judgment of God on the American people.
- The Leviathan Released Because of Trump Prophecy: Words from the minister’s group alleged that a seven-headed Leviathan was released globally, causing chaos because of Trump. The ACPE judged this as a false prophecy rooted in political bias and hatred toward President Trump’s conservative stances,.
- Judging of the American Church Prophecy: The minister declared the American Church exchanged spiritual power for political power and falsely inferred that the Church did not need Jesus because they had Trump. The ACPE countered that the movements they know understand Trump is only human and that God reigns supreme.
- The Tyranny and the Fall of Democracy in America: This word, given November 8th, 2024, declared that the USA was facing its period of greatest instability, leading to lawlessness, chaos, loss of life, and riots. It proclaimed that democracy was “about to fall” and some economic structures would fail, leading to a “giving over to tyranny”,.
The ACPE judges these words as false because they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and fail the scriptural test for discerning New Testament prophetic words. They believe the utterances represent harmful curses that could incite violent actions against the President or produce a “corporate agreement in a demonic plot” that empowers the enemy to fulfill the curse. Furthermore, the words do not reflect love (citing 1 Corinthians 13).
Key prophetic principles emphasized by the ACPE include the necessity of weighing prophetic words carefully (1 Corinthians 14:29) and discerning the spirit behind the word, noting that a sign or wonder coming to pass does not automatically mean the prophecy is of God (Deuteronomy 13),. True prophetic words must flow from the wisdom of God, which is pure, peace-loving, gentle, and full of compassion.
The council stressed that prophecy should be Redemptive,. Even when hard words are necessary, they must contain an invitation to repentance, a call to prayer, and hope,. In contrast, the denounced prophecies were described as hopeless, disturbing, and breeding fear and confusion. The ACPE initially tried to address the issues privately and asked the minister to retract the “presumptive and dangerous Words,” but these efforts were unsuccessful,.
While the ACPE clarifies they are condemning the words and not the person, they emphasize the need for spiritual maturity and proper oversight in releasing public prophecies,. They affirm that they do not consider Trump to be “an angel or perfect,” nor the “Savior of America,” but they note that he has promoted Christianity more than previous presidents, suggesting the judgment prophecies “just doesn’t fit with the facts”,,. The council ends by calling for continued prayer for the US, believing that God wants to heal the land and that America’s best days, revival, and awakening are still ahead,,.
Prophetic Money comment:
Here is an update video from Jennifer Leclaire:
https://youtu.be/0kz54URzuRM
Cindy Jacobs: Why We Didn’t Call Emma Stark’s Name & Other Answers
Jennifer LeClaire Ministries
Nov 23, 2024
Cindy Jacobs and the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders have denounced and condemned some of Emma Stark’s prophecies. You had questions. These are answers.
NotebookLM AI Summary:
The provided sources summarize a public statement released by the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders (ACPE) to answer questions regarding their previous judgment of two prophetic words issued by Emma Stark.
The core issue stems from Emma Stark’s prophetic word released on Election Eve, titled “God punched Trump,” which the ACPE judged to be false and not from God.
Details of the Prophecy and the ACPE’s Rationale
The Prophecies in Question: The statement addressed the “God punched Trump” word and another word concerning the democracy of America. Emma Stark reported having a vision where “the Lord punched Trump in the face” as a judgment image, resulting in his teeth coming out and “a lot of blood”. The Lord allegedly declared He would render Trump unable to leave, unfit, unable to gather the best minds, and that he would eventually be removed by the Lord after a catastrophic time leading, because Trump “has partnered with an antichrist Spirit to build his own kingdom”.
Why the ACPE Judged the Words False: The ACPE issued the public statement due to the gravity of the words and the potential damage resulting from the violent imagery. They judged both words to be false because:
- They do not believe God is finished with America.
- They do not believe Trump’s election is a judgment from God (noting Trump has survived three known assassination attempts/plots).
- The violent rhetoric could give license to people consumed by hate to try to fulfill the prophecy.
- The words lacked Redemption, suggesting that Trump’s removal and riots in America would inevitably take place and could not be stopped. They believe God is merciful and brings warnings (citing 2 Chronicles 7:14).
- Speaking such judgment “can actually curse our nation”.
The ACPE clarified they would have pushed back against similar violence prophesied against any elected official, including Democratic leaders or a monarchy, noting that words of judgment against rulers like Herod (who was eaten by worms) were reserved for evil dictators.
Answers to Common Questions
The ACPE’s statement provided answers to the most common questions that arose from the disagreement:
- Why No Name Was Used: The ACPE decided not to use Emma Stark’s name in their initial release to extend a measure of Grace, emphasizing that they were judging the word and not the person. They stated they have never called Emma a false prophet.
- Prior Contact: Yes, the ACPE had “many discussions” with Emma over the preceding 18 months regarding harsh words. When contacted about the Trump and riot prophecies, Emma and David replied that they felt the words were accurate.
- Prior Judgment: According to Emma and David, the words were judged by people in their own group. The ACPE feels that prophecies of this magnitude, which could impact nations, should also be judged by those outside their immediate ministry.
- Going Public: Emma and David were informed that the discussion would be taken public if a retraction was not made. The ACPE cites 1 Corinthians 14:29, which instructs prophets to “weigh carefully what is said,” and notes Emma was once an ACPE member with an agreement to submit words of such magnitude for judgment.
- Homeland Security: The ACPE firmly denied threatening Emma with Homeland Security. However, they were concerned that Emma could be flagged or blacklisted from the United States for 10 years or more due to the violent language and prophesying about the end of US democracy, as Homeland Security monitors such words. They stressed this message was sent out of “love and care”.
ACPE’s Concerns and Desire for Resolution
The ACPE stated they hoped to accomplish a response of humility. Instead, they observed “arrogance and a lack of willingness to even consider any changes,” describing the reaction as dogmatic.
The ACPE is deeply concerned about what they view as Emma and David Stark’s actions, including:
- The spirit exhibited, which “breeds harshness and judgmentalism rather than humility and Brokenness”.
- Actively sewing Discord and unrest among the Next Generation, contributing to a generational divide.
- Emma’s pattern of harsh and unredemptive prophecies (e.g., when she prophesied in Alaska, “God spat on you Alaska”).
- Reports from churches and national leaders about the damage caused by her harsh words in the name of prophecy.
Despite the conflict, the ACPE affirmed their willingness to have mediation. They wish to see the unique gift God has given Emma used to its fullest extent. They stated that this public Q&A will be their last public statement on the matter.
The video host, a Gen X member of the ACPE, expressed deep grief that the issue played out on social media. They emphasized the need for unity in the prophetic movement, noting that the enemy seeks to divide. The ACPE believes the next generation is the “best generation and the most prophetic” they have encountered and desires to bless them and run together in unity.
Also check out this post with Cindy Jacobs: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxYMi4NEqRLVmXrlbTQbD60t4zU2pMzGdw
Hello Prophetic Money,
Just Writing more on Emma Stark.. I can tell 100% the style of the Prophetic Word You Wrote Above is from her.. & she does carry the title of an actual Prophet.. I can see the Americans easily denouncing her .. & I do appreciate the angle of Cindy Jacobs Bill Hamon & the rest whom signed their names on Your Presented PDF .. stating they do not want this Curse to come to fruition .. What Heavily Concerns my thoughts right now is Emma Stark has a track record of accuracy … even though I do not agree with all her beliefs in her teachings.. .. Donne’ Clement had seen as I had long ago of her father Kim Clement see a “King has fallen ..” prophetic insight years back which I heard this particular broadcast from Prophet Kim Live stream.. & Appeared Prophet Kim saw a Possible Trump had fallen .. or “Fell Over..” identical to Emma Stark there mentioned above in your PDF .. Donne’ has said repeatedly this her father had seen “A King Fallen… ” years ago she is worried could mean a targeting of Trump’s Life .. coming to fruition ..!! which is Emma Stark is seeing in her statement .. there is a 3rd Attempt in Motion on Trump Life by the Deep Staters even Prophet Robin Bullock told Roger Stone There would be 3 Attempts on President Trump’s Life.. Prophet Robin told this directly to Roger Stone .. 3 Attempts on President Trump’s Life..
Pray is All I can say at this Point.. Pray the Resurrection Power of God Rises Up Trump even if any of this has a possibility of Coming to Fruition .. I am listening to the Broadcast right now in the background.. is around 17 Minutes section of the Channel on Social Media platform .. Youtube .. Global Prophetic Alliance .. is the channel name dated on election night Eve… just as had been said on your posted clip..
Thank you for sharing. I just looked up that name “Emma Stark” on youtube. And I see a channel called Global Prophetic Alliance come up. I have never seen that lady before, so not sure who she is.
If you look at the recent prophecies, including Robin Bullock, something has changed after election – timeline has changed. So now you can almost throw out all scary prophecies that were spoken before the election. Don’t pay attention to them. only listen to new prophecies about Trump that people received after the election (november 8).
Here is Robin Bullock from November 12:
https://propheticmoney.com/2024-open-door-the-beginning-of-a-new-era-evil-defeated/
Things have changed overnight. Kamala Harris was inserted to steal a timeline. If she could have stolen the timeline, we had no precedent for this. They’re trying to bring to pass something, before the time. What they didn’t realize, when they pulled her out of a primary, and they didn’t attach one to her, they triggered another timeline. They called Obama the anointed one, messiah, black savior. They were trying to groom Obama for something. And then he gave Iran those billions of dollars. When he did, Obama lost the role of ever being the world leader, as antichrist. Now it’s over – everybody’s has to get new players inserted – all the old ones are going away. This was a time that Darkness fully believed, was their time to defeat God. But they could not get it done this time. Why? Because they never counted on the Church Praying. There was in the Spirit, an open door in 2024. Now, their next opportunity is 2030.
Hello @propheticmoney,
I am grateful for the elders of the Prophetic Movement to take their Stance as they have. They are just searching for Humility to be Expressed within Emma Stark Ministries as a whole. I had not been aware there had been reports of Hurt in the Body of Christ due to Harshness presented within her prophecies. I had just written a perspective of my differing interpretation of the Current Emma Stark Prophecy being discussed. But my perspective commentary did not post efficiently from this device. So I will just write this short piece here instead. Thank You So Much for Your Channel has helped Bring Comfort to Many in this Hour.
Jodi – thank you for sharing. And you’re welcome. It’s a blessing to be a blessing! God Bless!